Videos in the Food R&D Roundtable Series

Part I

Clean Labeling (runtime 12:10)

Part II

Ingredient Replacement (runtime 9:50)

Part III

Organic Foods [this video] (runtime 4:40)

Part IV

Future of Hydrocolloids (runtime 5:09)

Part V

Hydrocolloid Benefits (runtime 7:19)

Part VI

Food Industry Developments (runtime 5:18)


Matt Patrick: Okay. Let's move on to the third topic. We'll slide into the area of marketplace claims, and one of the claim areas, it's been really big for a while still really hot is organic. Blair, what's going on in the world of organic right now from a regulatory point of view, from a legal point of view, and in your view from a consumer point of view?

Blair Brown: Organic you could almost say it's a trend but it's definitely here to stay. I think you're always going to have consumers who want that and who are looking for that. And what makes organic different from some of the other areas is that there are regulations around organic. So the United States National Organic Program has established specific rules for what organic products are.

Matt Patrick: And those are in place, they're established, they're not changing, they're not moving at this point?

Blair Brown: Absolutely. So your National Organic Board they often follow the standards, they keep them up to date. They make sure that the standards are being met but they are well established and it's very specific about what food manufacturers may use and what they may not use and what they have to do.

Matt Patrick: Can you educate me a little bit about these organic boards? What is that? Is that a government board or is that in industry board.

Blair Brown: Absolutely. It's a government agency. It's part of the USDA. They've established what the national organic program is as well as the National Organic Standards Board and they make the rules and regulations for what organic foods may and may not have, so very specific rules. For example, you can't have anything that's been irradiated or treated with radiation. You can't use products that have been made with sewage sludge. And you can't use products that have been made with genetically modified organisms. So very straightforward. These rules are in place. It's not just the United States. Other countries have very, very similar rules as well.

Matt Patrick: Okay. So how do these rules impact the hydrocolloid toolbox? Are all hydrocolloids organic? How does that impact a developer that is working in the organic field?

Blair Brown: Many of them are. So as we've been saying, a lot of our products are natural and they come from natural sources. So things like gum acacia, it's a natural harvested product. It's a tree sap. But for organic, for example, we have to put special systems in place to make sure that we are sourcing our acacia from dedicated areas that we can ensure no pesticides have been used, again, no irradiation, no sewage sludge, all of things. For all of acacia in general, pesticides are never used. It's a wild harvested product, so there's never any issue. But with the organic, you have that extra level of certification and extra eyes watching it to make sure that the consumer's products are being protected all the way throughout the supply chain.

Matt Patrick: Okay. Is TIC's organic portfolio static? Is what we have now what we have or are we looking for more organic opportunities, more organic options as we go forward?

Blair Brown: It's ever changing, and what we do is as we see what's happening in the market, we develop products geared towards that. So we have our base of organic hydrocolloids. But we have different technologies and different blends that we can get the functionality and what the customers are looking for based on that portfolio that we have.

Matt Patrick: So TIC has a pretty broad customer base. Those of you that are doing technical service work for customers, are you seeing an increase in organic formulation requests, a decrease, what do you see from the market place?

Dan Grazaitis: It's pretty steady. I don't think I would say there's a drastic increase or decrease. It's basically been pretty steady. We do have a pretty complete lineup of organic gums. That gives us a lot of options when we are working with customers.

Matt Patrick: So when you get a request for organic formulation, you don't go, oh, no, it's manageable?

Dan Grazaitis: Yes. We're not dealing with like our one organic ingredient. We have a nice selection so we can kind of mix and match and work and usually get to where the customer needs to be.

Matt Patrick: Okay. Great. Great..